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  Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.

  2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.

  3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.

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  Half banana

  Your appointment to conduct the Watchtower study is obviously by means of the Holy Spirit........

  but getting people to think sounds right.

  Try leaving a question which will be answered ambivalently in the individual's mind, perhaps highlight an absurd scripture such as Isaiah 45;7 "I make peace, I create evil, I am Jehovah who doeth these things". ASV. Something to keep them thinking afterwards to start them asking the right sort of probing questions.

  See if you can reduce the congregation membership by half within three months!
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  JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

  by Listener in

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  sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here..  it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

  the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

  then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

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  Half banana

  And there will be pork in the trees in the morning.
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  What does the Armageddon Genocide Actually Accomplish?

  by xjwsrock in

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  why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?

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  To put things in perspective; to resurrect one person would be the most amazing miracle.

  It is now understood that the number of people who have ever lived stands at just over 100 billion.............

  Once you start to believe Bible stories as if they are true; you can be persuaded to believe anything however stupid.
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  Critical Thinking-is that phrase a stigma?

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  when i first heard the term 'critical thinking' it was as a teenager during a watchtower study.

  the study went on to elaborate how we shouldn't be swayed by critical thinking.

  there was no explanation that the term didn't mean 'to criticize' thoughts and words, but rather that it means 'to objective think and to evaluate thoughts and words'.

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  Half banana

  When you wield mind-control over a group of people who self regulate for total conformity; words can mean precisely what the cult leadership wants them to mean.

  Tony Morris has already pronounced on the subject of “critical thinking”.............

  
  

  “It’s kind of amazing that once you learn critical thinking, once you remove yourself from it and then take another look from a different perspective. How manipulative it is. How the ‘double think’ is right there in your face.”

  
  

  This  fatuous, almost grotesque explanation of what critical thinking is, exposes a fatal flaw in the credibility of a large corporate organization. The unbelievable crassness of this quote from his assembly speech a couple of years back should alert any outside enquirer to the dismal depths of ignorance which come from the very top of the JW org. It should also flag up a red alert to the JW who still has any residual intelligence left in them.

  Tony Morris has declared to the zombie masses that critical thinking is BAD...like carbon dating is BAD and homosexuality is BAD and other religions are BAD (apostates however are way beyond BAD!) It is easy to put people off things isn’t it?

  @Stuckinarut, I like your word ‘analytical’, this has not yet been stigmatized by the seven holy baboons of Brooklyn. To analyse is to question the validity of the sources of the information, to contextualize, to question assumptions about the subject; to ask does the received wisdom on this stand up to a logical, factual, semantic and philosophical investigation etc.

  Yes with rational analysis, the Watchtower doctrines fall at the first hurdle. It’s little wonder they condemn critical thinking and the higher education which depends on it as a matter of course.
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  Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

  by TeaBiscuit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

  if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

  since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

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  Welcome to the forum Tea biscuit. I appreciate that you have already realized the wisdom of reflecting on the seriousness of what you are thinking of doing namely to be baptised as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It really does pay to look before you leap.

  JWs call their beliefs “the truth” as shorthand within the community to remind everyone that what is believed is true. This could not be further from the truth! The JW religion works through ruthless conformity to the Watchtower doctrines which are repeated daily through their literature, meetings, JWTV and also by the expectations of the whole community. JWs constantly patrol the boundaries in their everyday conversations exploring the fine line between what is acceptable or not to the directions laid down by the governing body. To transgress, for a baptised individual, leads to a judicial committee hearing and possible punishment by shaming or shunning.

  The matter of transgender and homosexuality is a good example of how insensitive the JW org is. These matters are realities of the human condition, but the Watchtower can only cope with the Biblical mentality of black and white as if God made things one way and to be different is offensive to God.

  JWs rejoice in their exclusion of people with whom they  disagree... balanced mature humans rejoice in the diversity in life. JWs harbour the delusion of exclusive divine protection and pure religion, the fact is their beliefs actually stifle natural goodness and suppress personal development...sadly the only tangible contribution that  a JW makes is to unwittingly promote the financial interests of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and its supporting companies.

  Nothing in my life has been as hurtful to me and my family as the JW organisation. Even though still suffering the consequences years after leaving, I am so much happier having escaped from its mind-bending influence. In essence I wish I never had had anything to do with Jehovah’s Witnesses. I wish there had been someone there to tell me about the other side of the coin before I took that leap.
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  May 21, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Annual Items for 2017

  by wifibandit in

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  may 21, 2016 to all congregations re: annual items for 2017.

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  Not only calenders but it looks like bound volumes are now out of favour...and there is a good reason: (with reference to the Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY)

  . . . many have found that their use of printed bound volumes has greatly diminished. These electronic research tools are regularly updated . . .

  Yes brothers we don't want you keep bound volumes so that you can quote what we might have said in the past, because what with the new light an' all we want to re-write our history and doctrines electronically as it changes before your very eyes.

  JWs are an Orwellian cult!
  
  
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  Damaging Children With the Christian Gospel

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the christian gospel begins with the dehumanising assertion that all humans are fallen sinners who deserve nothing but god's judgement and wrath.. not only does this taint all relationships between christians and unbelievers, it destroys the beautiful innocence of childhood.

  in a recent edition of the popular christian radio program "family life today", titled “introducing your child to god,” co-host bob lepine discussed teaching “practical theology” to his young daughter, explaining:.

  when my daughter, amy, was still less than two years old, i started teaching practical theology to her.

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  Cofty your OP shows the revolting face of Christianity.

  JWs are fully committed to the idea of forcing their brand of salvation on their own kids.

  Surely this has to do with parents lack of insight into normal societal relations and a bullying attitude towards their children; believe it, it'll do you good! Another motive is to look good in the congregation with zombie children who just follow and please the foolish grown ups. The trouble is that the grown ups themselves are acting like unquestioning children and so creates the circularity in JW culture of dependent children growing up to become dependent adults.

  This christianity is at odds with a healthy mental outlook and forcing the grim concept of sinfulness on children who cannot be expected to criticise it; is child abuse.
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  Damaging Children With the Christian Gospel

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the christian gospel begins with the dehumanising assertion that all humans are fallen sinners who deserve nothing but god's judgement and wrath.. not only does this taint all relationships between christians and unbelievers, it destroys the beautiful innocence of childhood.

  in a recent edition of the popular christian radio program "family life today", titled “introducing your child to god,” co-host bob lepine discussed teaching “practical theology” to his young daughter, explaining:.

  when my daughter, amy, was still less than two years old, i started teaching practical theology to her.

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  Christianity is like the advertising for an antiseptic product... "It kills 99% of all known germs". Only our product will get to destroy the hidden threats............. If you join our religion we can get rid of 99% of all known sins............
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  You wear tight pants and you will be in trouble

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.

  if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.

  i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.

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  Half banana

  Fashion for goodness sake changes all the time, that's what it's about. It's an opportunity for young couples to see who optimises their mating instincts!

  I'm glad they make such an issue over what people wear since it is in normal life it is hardly relevant... it just goes to show that what they are really concerned with is conformity to the subjective whims of the GB; obey or else! Any outsider confronted with these JW demands will be able to see that this is a cult at work.

  Keep up the good work Tony, you're destroying the org!
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  2016 Regional Convention - Sunday Morning synopsis

  by Jehalapeno in

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  2. friends

  via reddit.

  here are the morning program highlights.

  will update for the afternoon once it's all over.

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  Half banana

  I wonder if the WTBTS are investing in the market for anxiety medication? they certainly are supplying the conditions to require buying them.

  Just think of the mind damage to innocent children who instead of growing up confident and hopeful will imagine some hidden terror is always present and that they are singled out to respond by hiding. It is a psychological calamity for the young JWs.

  Children are expendable, just collateral damage in the JW org's paranoid crusade.

  The sooner the world knows how bad this cult is the better for everyone.